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Old 04-02-2017, 11:15 PM
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I like the expert extreme in the flatlands and trails. Hate it in powder. With my hawk I'm at a crossroad my 136 is losing paddles every ride. I want way better deep powder performance! I have a 159 Verticle escape donor.

I am looking for insight from the brave and resourceful folks that have gone ahead and built and rode what they wanted.

1)After stretching the expert to 144 or more and installing a powder track would you do it again or swap the skid for a mountain skid?

2) After swapping skid and track to 144 + are you satisfied or want to work towards a 15 or 16 wide?

3)Anyone who built a wide track machine would you build a wide tracked hawk again?
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Old 04-03-2017, 08:41 AM
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I have a 600 hawk with 151x13x2 track and arctic cat float skid and tip up rails. I really like that setup. I ride with snowbikes mostly so I like the maneuverability of narrow track in tight trees plus it seems to be a nice setup if I get stuck riding trails. I have not rode a wide track though and for long climbs or bottomless powder I could see that being a benefit but for how I ride I'm happy with narrow track. Sled skid makes a huge difference so does yeti ski.
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:02 AM
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Havent rode a wider hawk but we live in the mountains and everyone here rides a 12.5-13.25 so that might say something.

Really it boils down to how much work you want to put into a rear skid.

My brothers set up is a 144 expert skid with relocation brackets and a 13.25 with a 2 in lug. It works well. Has a good amount of travel but doesnt get up ontop of the snow as well as mountain skids.

My set up is a holz 151 with a 13.25 x 2 lug. I dont have near the travel he does but mine pops up on the snow and goes. Might be the extra length I have over him but I doubt thats the only reason.

I ran the stock 136 fanner skid and stock 136 track last spring. I had a blast and was impressed at what it could do. I thought this year I might switch back but after riding the 151 in the spring snow it will way out climb the set up I ran last year and it feels just as nimble.

On another note weight is a big factor to change out the skid. My 136 feels like it weighs 20 lbs more than my 151 skid.
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Thanks for the insight! What are the main draw backs you have experienced with going with a different skid? Only one I forsee is big bump capabilitiy. I assume I'll kinda have to relearn how to ride as well
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Old 04-11-2017, 07:06 AM
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Yeah it doesn't handle the big bumps as well as the stock one but I bottomed the stock one out on a regular basis also. Really the only downfall is the inital set up time it takes you to figure things out.
Im still having an issue of under full compression my track gets way to loose but other than that im happy with it.
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I agree no real drawbacks except set up time. Take the time to run suspension through travel and experiment with different hole positions for suspension arms and idler wheels to keep track tension right and it will work good. I drilled many holes in my frame extensions before I got everything right. My skid doesn't soak up the huge bumps on trails as good as my 503 but everywhere else it shines. I feel confident jumping the hawk now it takes off right and lands nice no more bottoming out. I rode a stock 600 136 out west this year and i don't miss it.
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Best mod I ever did was timbersled skid in hawk. I do like the 15"x2.5 track but don't think I would do it again. I haven't rode the hawk for 2 years now since I invented the Sno-rkt and that's only 137" 12.5. Even that I prefer the 120 for more setup snow because it's way more playful.
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