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Old 08-13-2014, 12:07 PM
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OK... with almost 2000 miles on my Ranger Crew 800 now it seems to have no bottom end power. I can get it to the 48mph top speed but takes dam near half mile to do it. And even then it won't hold it long. Thinking the belt is done. No big deal.
Last night I ran it 2 miles just to see what it was doing. No bottom end power. So pull the cover and literally 40 minutes later I could finally hold the secondary in my bare hand without burning me. Is this normal for clutch to get that friggen hot in only 2 miles?
Need to get a puller to get the primary off but it was just as hot as the secondary.

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What belt should I go with now? Poo or ??
Is it worth getting a clutch kit now and what brand?

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Old 08-13-2014, 12:28 PM
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It shouldn't be that hot in only two miles. you have something going on there, I would guess belt is glazed over and slipping causing the heat buildup, maybe a broken spring in the secondary? If it's taking that long it's not shifting out correctly and trying to catch up, it's putting a lot of pressure on the belt to do it now and thats a LOT of weight to get moving squeezing on that belt. I would guess something else like a sacked out or broken spring could be the issue.. you could even do it all with the primary on the vehicle if you can get the primary clutch cover off evenly, secondary comes off just on a keyed/bolted end.

We've had good luck with the stock polaris belt and have kept using that.


I am a big fan of the EPI clutch kits.
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Old 08-13-2014, 03:23 PM
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Secondary is off and feels like the spring is still "good". Not sure if it's weak or not. Belt looks like chit to say the least. Burn spots in numerous places but only on 1 side of it. Other side looks dam near new
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I sent both my clutches out to a guy (off my Arctic Cat H1) & had them machined with a crosshair type design on them a while back. You can practically submerge the clutches & not loose power (slip). Didn't cost too much either. I could look the guy up if youre interested? Made the low end torque much more improved as well.
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What year? EPI clutch kits are great for the price point, had one in my '11 800 and loved it. Dirty Dawg is another option but more costly.
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Thanks for the info fellas!!

It's a 2011 EPS limited. Been a great rig till this yr, minor issues so really can't complain.
Pulled the primary and all 3 left buttons on the spider are loose and visibly worn. Right ones are near new condition. The spring seems like it is non-existent. You can push the cover down with 3 fingers. Is it normally that soft?
I pulled the cover off without the normal clutch press tools needed for sleds and the weights and rollers are good still. No grooves or flat spots.
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No it shouldn't be that soft. I'd throw a full rebuild kit at it. The '11 800 EPI mudder kit would include a new helix, weights and both springs. Great kit for 27's. You can pick a different primary spring to fit your needs.
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Yup needs a rebuild kit. Springs are cheap too, so might as well replace that too. If you have it off you might as well do the seondary as well if you have the helix to switch, those little buttons that are in there usually wear down fast depending on if you haul some big loads or trailers with them, we replace ours every year in our work units.
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Had the dealer look at both clutches today. Secondary is fine, (but needing rebuilt soon). Primary=pile of garbage Spider is shot, buttons are gone and wallered out the holes. And in true Poo Poo fashion it is not available as a seperate part.
New Poo clutch is $520 from dealer. Or....
They also have another option for me. For $650 installed, they can put on a EBS clutch system. Includes loaded primary, loaded secondary, and belt. It would be awesome to have the engine braking when going down hill vs the freewheel I have now. Anyone using this and thoughts?
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Had the dealer look at both clutches today. Secondary is fine, (but needing rebuilt soon). Primary=pile of garbage Spider is shot, buttons are gone and wallered out the holes. And in true Poo Poo fashion it is not available as a seperate part.
New Poo clutch is $520 from dealer. Or....
They also have another option for me. For $650 installed, they can put on a EBS clutch system. Includes loaded primary, loaded secondary, and belt. It would be awesome to have the engine braking when going down hill vs the freewheel I have now. Anyone using this and thoughts?
Thanks.
Welcome to our hell. The clutch system has been the downfall of our Ranger. 4700 miles and have had to replace the primary twice and the secondary once.
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