Nitrogen enriched gas???

[rmk_racer]

Hey all,

The Shell station here that we use is advertising "Nitrogen enriched gas." Anyone have any knowledge about this? Thoughts on effects in a sled?

Thanks!
Shannon

[Ollie]

wow, never even heard of that.
Wonder how that would work.

[wrecks alot]

Originally Posted by Ollie

wow, never even heard of that.
Wonder how that would work.

im in the same boat

[Bushman]

http://www.examiner.com/x-4824-Tampa...iched-Gasoline

[rmk_racer]

Thanks for the link Bushman.

Ran it in my stock Assault all last year with no problems...

Here's my issue with it: This is my stock sled on the RMSHA hillclimb circuit. Last season at Jackson, I had the tech guy check this gas with his "checker." This tool he uses checks for oxygenated fuel which isn't allowed. This gas from Shell came back borderline, just barely passing. It's a pain in the butt tracking down a Chevron all the time to get gas with no ethanol and not nitrogen enriched.

Also wondering if I should run the plug in the ethanol position for this fuel??

[Bushman]

Originally Posted by rmk_racer

Thanks for the link Bushman.

Ran it in my stock Assault all last year with no problems...

Here's my issue with it: This is my stock sled on the RMSHA hillclimb circuit. Last season at Jackson, I had the tech guy check this gas with his "checker." This tool he uses checks for oxygenated fuel which isn't allowed. This gas from Shell came back borderline, just barely passing. It's a pain in the butt tracking down a Chevron all the time to get gas with no ethanol and not nitrogen enriched.

Also wondering if I should run the plug in the ethanol position for this fuel??

You got me there cuz I cant say, the gas test close here too & sometimes fails. All in all a pretty good gimick..... Pay for a gal of gas & get almost a gal of gas & some nitrogen blended in. X millions of gallons & the rich get richer.

The Bad

Aside from the negative science above, the sports car community is concerned that nitrogen enriched fuels will harm your forced induction vehicle if is tuned to run 90-100% injector cycle. Some say that the minimum octane rating will still be the same, therefore no ECU adjustment will occur and it is perfectly okay to use this fuel. If the majority is correct, this fuel could cause lean conditions and your ECU will want to increase injector duty cycle to make up for non-flammable gas. If you are already running your maximum injector cycle and don't have enough to compensate for the change, a lean condition could possibly occur. Make sure you have plenty of injector duty left and keep an eye on your AFR's while running this fuel until further evidence is released confirming the science behind this new fuel.
Also, Shell's lack of in-depth press release is creating negative buzz on the forums. Most forum users agree this is just another marketing tactic to help boost sales. Some even say this stuff is really bad for your car and the environment. Other's say it's wonderful. Hopefully, a third party labratory will release some spectrometer readings to figure out exactly what is in this stuff would settle any discrepencies.

[rmk_racer]

The red high-lighted section was what got me wondering if I should run the plug in the ethanol position.

[X2Freeride]

BP (British Petrolium) gas claims the same thing as well with their Nitrogen enriched gas. They followed Suit not long after Shell brought this stuff out.

[rdr99]

Nothing like adding more inert crap to the fuel.

[Anylizer]

Better to be safe than sorry. Run in the ethinol pos. when testing the specific gravity for BSFC purposes the Nitrogen fuel tests like chit!

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